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Cpt. Madman

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on: November 05, 2018, 11:34:18 PM
I want to bring my own opinion on the Audaces and her sistership.

First I like the top and down view, it looks agressiv, it has profile, its something to remember.

But I dont like the Broadside view,
The enginepods are way to large they cover anything of the ship that is interesting without being interesting enough on their own.
I would advise to shrink the outer enginepods or at least put some stripes on the sides or some ornaments. Or you build some turret emplacements on the sides.
Also the thrusters look a bit cheap, give them some depth so they dosent look like old TV screens.

Its just what I think you could improve.



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on: November 06, 2018, 01:09:18 PM
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on: November 06, 2018, 01:11:12 PM
Yes, I am also not a big fan of the TV screen things on the engines. 



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on: November 08, 2018, 10:57:21 PM
I want to bring my own opinion on the Audaces and her sistership.

First I like the top and down view, it looks agressiv, it has profile, its something to remember.

But I dont like the Broadside view,
The enginepods are way to large they cover anything of the ship that is interesting without being interesting enough on their own.
I would advise to shrink the outer enginepods or at least put some stripes on the sides or some ornaments. Or you build some turret emplacements on the sides.
Also the thrusters look a bit cheap, give them some depth so they dosent look like old TV screens.

Its just what I think you could improve.

Hi Cpt Madman.

I like your ideas, and its great to hear your feedback, so thank you:

  • I agree the Engine Pods could be smaller, though this would change the inherent character of this current Trimaran design.  Instead, I will likely apply your suggestion to other designs.  I had not mentioned this before, so ... The Centre Main, the Main Pods, and the Inner Pods are on a scaling of 1:1, 1:2/3 and 1:1/3 ratios.  I do this to balance the proportions within this particular design;
  • And yes, the Engines themselves do look kinda like TV Screens.  I am still scanning for a simple yet elegant approach.  I think I may have struck on something with the engine design on the AntithesisPosted here.  This was my first experiment in this styling form, so I need to learn a bit more, i think.  :)

I have not much modified the Trimaran design from its original inspiration (Feb 2017).
I have a new design on the drawing board (in my Excel spreadsheet) that significantly modifies the Trimarans and am going to construct the first one in-game this upcoming weekend.  The upcoming ship is intended to be a 10 slot, named Avaris.

If it looks good, and improves the speed of construction (real-time efforts), I may adopt this for my remaining designs for the 11 thru 15+ designs.

Appreciate your feedback, Madman.  I hope you keep designing and posting yourself.  I like your productions.

Cheers
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Ship designs:  The Crab, Tie Interceptor,  Aurum,  Audaces, Avaris, and  Aegoran
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on: November 10, 2018, 04:50:12 PM
I appreciate feedback. 
And with prompting from Cpt. Madman and Jester I decided to take Engine Nozzling on as a design challenge.

If you would like to see what Cpt. Madman has done with his Engine Nozzling, you can see his thread here.
Nice work Madman  :D

My first attempt at Engine Nozzling is featured with three pics, here, in my Design Post (in this thread).
One pic is presented below.



Cheers

Ship designs:  The Crab, Tie Interceptor,  Aurum,  Audaces, Avaris, and  Aegoran
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on: November 11, 2018, 04:49:33 AM


Just posted Avaris here.
Or refer to Table of Contents, this thread.
Ship designs:  The Crab, Tie Interceptor,  Aurum,  Audaces, Avaris, and  Aegoran
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Cpt. Madman

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on: November 11, 2018, 08:56:09 PM
Well thats an improvement!
I like it.



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on: November 13, 2018, 08:49:22 PM


Just posted Avaris here.
Or refer to Table of Contents, this thread.

Nice !!
Avaris looks great.  Super maneuverable, well done !!
I also like the dramatic poses, lol  8)

I liked the body style of your designs before, but the Avaris seems to take it up a notch.  And I agree, completing the bridge area this way is much cleaner looking with the contiguous lines.
The engine nozzles are cool too.

Not sure why you are not posting your xml's, but can you please mail me the xml for Avaris.  I want to try her out.
In return, I will try my hand at making a variation of your engine nozzle.

Thank you



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on: November 18, 2018, 05:32:25 AM
Hi Jester
Yes, an attempt to improve the engine nozzles would be great
Check your mail box for the .xml.

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Ship designs:  The Crab, Tie Interceptor,  Aurum,  Audaces, Avaris, and  Aegoran
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on: November 18, 2018, 03:13:38 PM
BIG Omicron - 106,704

This gun was made in the Xanion Region, outside the Barrier.



For further discussion on Turret Making - click here

(Pic is from Aryus, a 12 Slot - Battle Ship Class - which I have not posted yet)
Ship designs:  The Crab, Tie Interceptor,  Aurum,  Audaces, Avaris, and  Aegoran
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Jester

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on: November 19, 2018, 01:52:20 PM
BIG Omicron - 106,704

(Pic is from Aryus, a 12 Slot - Battle Ship Class - which I have not posted yet)

What's with your Aryus?  Cargo Hold of 95,000???



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on: November 23, 2018, 12:29:33 PM
Lessons Learned


These are some of my lessons learned:
         1.  Avoid using ANY blocks with 0.05 scales, as these are NOT naturally divisible by the Avorion Game Software.
         2.  Build from the inside out.
         3.  Anything is possible.  ... Hmm ... just stop ... think about it.
         4.  Borrowing from other designers is a good thing - but give credit.  It's a community (not a competition).
         5.  Use of a spreadsheet  in ship design and as an aid during in-game construction - then build it
         6.  Jester pointed out that Cargo Hold blocks are optimally placed as one big blob, rather than chucks placed here and there.
         7.  Failure is "failure" if you learning nothing.

with block stats, you can devide avorion blocks and make them the size you want.
I made "realistic" human sized stairs with 0.02 (20cm) steps, or just download my spacely scooter which has many small components



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on: December 01, 2018, 07:41:16 PM
I'm loving everything I see! Warrax, how were you able to post 2 pages of replies on your post without anyone interrupting your clean chain of replies? And did you simply color spreadsheet squares for planning the insides of the ships?

Quick edit: I suggest that you add fins/wings to some boring sides of your ships. Perhaps adding small, colored, and specially-shaped blocks on the sides would help to add detail in lacking areas.
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on: December 08, 2018, 02:53:35 PM
I'm loving everything I see! Warrax, how were you able to post 2 pages of replies on your post without anyone interrupting your clean chain of replies? And did you simply color spreadsheet squares for planning the insides of the ships?

Quick edit: I suggest that you add fins/wings to some boring sides of your ships. Perhaps adding small, colored, and specially-shaped blocks on the sides would help to add detail in lacking areas.

Hi Sneaky

The two pages of no other posts were done by "Replying" repeatedly, and just dropping a few characters in the message as a placeholder.   I planned this Thread in advance, to determine what I wanted for content.  What you can see now is the remnants of that string.  Have a look at each post's individual time stamps, and you can get a sense of how I did this thread.  After I posted ... I think it was twenty replies, I casually went back and edited my "placeholders".

Yes.  All my ships are designed in a spreadsheet first.  I have a general sense of the proportions I want.  Within Excel, I can use macros to count the number of the various colours ... yeah, I know it may seem a little heavy handed, but my builds only take a few hours instead of many, many hours ...

I agree with your final point.  I certainly could do something with the "Boring" sides, etc.  But as I said in opening this thread, the look of simplicity is by design.  For the sake of efficiency, I try to find "functional" ways to make my ship look good.  To my eye, I like the long clean lines, and yes, I realize its not to everyone's taste.

Of course, you would be welcome to "steal" my ideas, and make enhancements that you like.
If you do, please post your designs.   ;)  I would certainly enjoy seeing them.

Again - thank you for your comments, Sneaky.
I hope you enjoy the game.
Ship designs:  The Crab, Tie Interceptor,  Aurum,  Audaces, Avaris, and  Aegoran
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